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Do any of us boycott Saudi products due to the human rights abuses, repression of that country?
Do we boycott all Muslim products because of the atrocities carried out by Al QAUDa in the name of Islam?
No. So I'm damn well not going to boycott innocent Danish companies whether I agree with the cartoons or not.
As it is, I do agree with freedom of speech. I think the Muslim world has every right to express its grievance in its newspapers, but Danish newspapers have every right to publish what they want within their own sovereign laws.
I have no sympathy for Saudi localia anyway. It is a disgusting, repressive, evil, corrupt regime. Frankly anything they boycott is something I am happy to wholly support.
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Quote:Do any of us boycott Saudi products due to the human rights abuses, repression of that country?
human right abuses happen all over the world in different form, even you ask from a CEO ,he would tell " the amount of pressure he or she is having from the boards of directors or from other concerning ppl".
We are not discussing here human right abuses but publishing of cartoon in news paper. Only those people can show the disrespect toward the religion of others who dont have respect for their own religion. If i respect my own parents ,i wouldnt abuse yours :0)........
Quote:Do we boycott all Muslim products because of the atrocities carried out by Al QAUDa in the name of Islam?
all muslims countries condem the people who carried out the attack of 911 and even muslims countries provide airspace and ground space to US. Unlike muslims ,Prime minister of DK refused to condem the action of news paper .
Quote:As it is, I do agree with freedom of speech. I think the Muslim world has every right to express its grievance in its newspapers, but Danish newspapers have every right to publish what they want within their own sovereign laws.
If they talk about freedom of speech ,lets publish the naked picture of Danish queen ........ :wink:
Quote:I have no sympathy for Saudi localia anyway. It is a disgusting, repressive, evil, corrupt regime. Frankly anything they boycott is something I am happy to wholly support.
sweetheart ,
Keep your emotions away from discussion forum :0) , i understand that u had some bad time in Saudi local but it doesnt mean that you act like a child :0).
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i understand that u had some bad time in Saudi local
erm - no, I've never been there. For obvious reasons.
An independent Danish newspaper has the right to publish what it wants about anyone or anything, within Danish law. We may or may not find it abhorrent, but it is their right. Just as it is Saudi's sovereign "right" to stone people to death, prevent half its population from driving, and allow men with sticks to go around beating people in the streets.
I find the reaction to this cartoon completely overblown, and childish. Yes - people are offended. But they need to see it for what it is: one ignorant, rather silly cartoon in a foreign newspaper that they don't even read. It pales into insignificance against the real atrocities that are carried out all over the world every day.
I suggest you acquaint yourself with what many schoolchildren in Saudi are taught about Jewish people. It is far more damaging, untruthful and hurtful than a few silly cartoons. It is the indoctrincation of hatred.
You don't see Christians boycotting American products because the US allowed the Da Vinci code to be published. Some sense of perspective is needed.
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HP Wrote:muslims and immigrants are finding it hard to find job,because of descrimination. Especially girls have head scarf have always problem in searching for job. By the way - I find this really sad and worrying. But my fear is that the reaction to these cartoons is only going to make things harder for muslims in Denmark and elsewhere.
Discrimination and racial hatred are always disgusting. But peaceful, constructive dialogue is the way to tackle them, with appropriate legislation (equal opportunity laws) where necessary.
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Hey Secret, Well said! That was exactly the point I was trying to make, the whole thing is just silly. And like I said if people are so worried about this kind of thing, then they shouldn't be surprised when others boycott them for the things they do - the whole thing is riWakerleyulous. Our society is way too sensitive.
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MP & EJ,
Apologies as I seem to be having a blonde day and have confused myself. But I still stand by my opinion over the Denmark illustrations, that's it's all just blown completely out of proportion in the grand scheme of things.
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Oh EJ, So much for your 'Peaceful Protests'!
7 Days today, front page:
'Iraqi militant group the Army of Mujahedeen called on it's members to attack any reachable Danish and Norweigian targets, as Copenhagen started to take measures to protect its citizens in muslim countries.'
"Boycotting cheese and milk products is a frail stance which reflects a weak (Islamic) nation that does not defend its prophet or principles" the group said.
Danish and Norweigan nationals have been attacked and the Danish flag is being burned.
I'd hardly call that peaceful! You see it's all very well saying peaceful protest is good, but then you get the nutters on board and it all kicks off! Shameful!
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basically lets just say that ... we all have our own diff reasons ... as to boycott danish product or what but before we loose civility in this forum which i sense any time now ... its better to just leave it to that and lock this thread ... pls mr moderator ..
Being a DJ is not a GOD given talent !!!!
its a Gift ..... by who ??? .... hmmmm
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From Concerning News paper
Honourable Citizens of The Muslim World
Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten is a strong proponent of democracy and freedom of religion. The newspaper respects the right of any human being to practise his or her religion. Serious misunderstandings in respect of some drawings of the Prophet Mohammed have led to much anger and, lately, also boycott of Danish goods in Muslim countries.
Please allow me to correct these misunderstandings.
On 30 September last year, Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten published 12 different cartoonists' idea of what the Prophet Mohammed might have looked like. The initiative was taken as part of an ongoing public debate on freedom of expression, a freedom much cherished in Denmark.
In our opinion, the 12 drawings were sober. They were not intended to be offensive, nor were they at variance with Danish law, but they have indisputably offended many Muslims for which we apologize.
Since then a number of offensive drawings have circulated in The Middle East which have never been published in Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten and which we would never have published, had they been offered to us. We would have refused to publish them on the grounds that they violated our ethical code.
Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten attaches importance to upholding the highest ethical standards based upon the respect of our fundamental values. It is so much more deplorable, therefore, that these drawings were presented as if they had anything to do with Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten.
Maybe because of culturally based misunderstandings, the initiative to publish the 12 drawings has been interpreted as a campaign against Muslims in Denmark and the rest of the world.
I must categorically dismiss such an interpretation. Because of the very fact that we are strong proponents of the freedom of religion and because we respect the right of any human being to practise his or her religion, offending anybody on the grounds of their religious beliefs is unthinkable to us.
That this happened was, consequently, unintentional.
As a result of the debate that has been going on about the drawings, we have met with representatives of Danish Muslims, and these meetings were held in a positive and constructive spirit. We have also sought in other ways to initiate a fruitful dialogue with Danish Muslims.
It is the wish of Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten that various ethnic groups should live in peace and harmony with each other and that the debates and disagreements which will always exist in a dynamic society should do so in an atmosphere of mutual respect.
For that reason, Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten has published many articles describing the positive aspects of integration, for example in a special supplement entitled The Contributors. It portrayed a number of Muslims who have had success in Denmark. The supplement was rewarded by the EU Commission.
Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten takes exception to symbolic acts suited to demonise specific nationalities, religions and ethnic groups.
Sincerely yours
Carsten Juste
Editor-in-Chief
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http://www1.jp.dk/indland/doku/jp_brev_localisk.pdf
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Quote: We may or may not find it abhorrent, but it is their right. Just as it is Saudi's sovereign "right" to stone people to death, prevent half its population from driving, and allow men with sticks to go around beating people in the streets.
Thats also within Saudi law ,why do u cry then :0) .... what u wrote in your text is
" An independent Danish newspaper has the right to publish what it wants about anyone or anything, within Danish law. ".
Quote:I find the reaction to this cartoon completely overblown, and childish.
What if someone link the Jesus with Terror or make disrespectful picture of Jesus? I think reaction would be really severe in southern europe and USA. I am talking about real christian people , not the christian people who attend the church only two times in their entire life ;0).
Quote:Yes - people are offended. But they need to see it for what it is: one ignorant, rather silly cartoon in a foreign newspaper that they don't even read.
U dont go to Saudi local then why do u cry about their laws :0).
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Alcoholic Wrote:Hey Secret, Well said! That was exactly the point I was trying to make, the whole thing is just silly. And like I said if people are so worried about this kind of thing, then they shouldn't be surprised when others boycott them for the things they do - the whole thing is riWakerleyulous. Our society is way too sensitive.
Choco sweetheart ,
so i spare you this time :boxing: your british mate arinegang was pissed off when i said pious cow to the british queen . what was the reason? because he has respect for his head of state no matter what.
When you dont have respect for your own Prophet then how can we expect you to demonstrate the respect for the religion of others :0).
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HP, it's a totally different story.
It's a sad fact that today, in light of the events and actions of certain fanatical factions in recent years - I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but it's an observation - that many of Joe Public when they hear the word Muslim think terrorist. So you really have to go back and look at events that have given this image and people have to look within their own groups to see why this is happening.
Sad, but true.
When you have these looneys appearing on tv condoning terrorist acts of killing innocents and violence in the name of Allah and the Prophet and quoting the Koran, what do you honestly expect.
Anyone with have a brain knows that these people ar misguided and that's not what Islam is about, but the outward image it gives is appalling and yet nothing, nothing appears to be done by their own people to stop them.
So maybe look closer to home to place the blame.
Think all you want of the proud world.
The western world is in general trigger happy with all the wars they start and their colonial legacy....
The west is decadent for the most part.
The Queen of England is a pompous cow. Prince Charles is a Wakerleyk with ears.
I can't wait to Photoshop some pornographic images of the Danish Queen and post them on the net.
NOTE TO ALL HACKERS. IF YOU FIND THIS PICTURE ON THE WEB, HACK INTO ALL DANISH GOVERNMENT SITES AND POST IT THERE.
Freedom of Speech......
Face it, we attack Bush all the time and the US, but people fail to realize that Europe is governed by greater SOBs than the American Chimp President. The only difference is that many of Europe's policies are internal as opposed to external American policies and thus we do not see them outside of Europe so we they are nice. But they ain't....
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Brisbane,
You're bsaolutely right. But what I'm saying is do you think the Prophet would have been depicted in such a way if the current things were not happening? I think not!
And once again, until the leaders start to outcast and condem the actions of certain people and groups bringing shame to Islam and it's followers, many others will view it through fearful eyes.
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oh my goodness, The radio did say yesterday was the coldest day in Australia but has hell really frozen over or did Choco and Brisbane agree on something.
hehehe.
btw most leaders with an IQ of 10 or higher do condemn the actions of the moronic.
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SecretBrisbane and Choco,
You both don't get the point, it is not about a person who drew the cartoons, it is about the nation that supported him and didn't want to appologize.
When the terrorist attacks takes place no muslim nation support it and defend them, so thats the difference.
SecretBrisbane is talking about terrorist attacks and boycotting muslim products, what this BS about???? who did back up these ideologies so you boycott??? Go ahead, be my guest boycott Al QAUDa products man!!!!
Choco,
Donot boycott as you wish, it is a free world. But don't tell us that Danish ppl are being attacked, didn't see, hear or read about a single incident. to be honest i do salute the muslim society there for being very rational and don't just go mad and do crazy things when these cartoons were published. That doesn't mean we will not see this happening in the future, there is always ppl who are not rational and might do these attacks.
About this iraqi moujahedeen army or whatever that called to attack Danish people........ Which country does this army belongs too?????? Iraq??? no it is not, it is just resistance but not a formal army.. DAH
Please get the point ppl, it is about country supporting total valgur opinion or totally disrespectful idea and they support and deffend it.
Lately what they done by this article posted 2 posts before, As i said before, they just trying to make it better because the felt the power of the Muslim nation. YES they felt the heat, they felt their country gonna loose alot. it is not because they respect our religion or respect our feelings. So TO THE HELL WITH THEM, i'll keep my boycott and keep calling for it.
Last, Secret Brisbane
Don't like Saudi rulings?, well it is their way, why are you offended, the people live their accept it, so why the hell you bother?? and by the way, it is working greatly, check the statistics of Crime rate and rape. check the states and Saudi statistics.
Why didn't you speak out your voice for Netherland allowying drugs, or the rest of the world for allowing prostitution?????????? or USA for leathel injection or electric chair???? why it is you only bother about the laws of a country you didn't even step your feet in, or you will never do???? or is it just for the sake of attacking nation or rules. and yes stonning a man is rule for the couple who would f**k each other while they are both married to different people.
Have some sanity. and this point about human rights. HAHAHAHHAHA you make me laugh man and thank god he didn't give you your reasoning ability. GUANTANAMOOOOOOOOOO hehe, human rights!!!!!!
Danish and Norweigan nationals have been attacked and the Danish flag is being burned.
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