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Hello All,
My thoughts and prayers go out to all those affected and hope they all find help and safety soon.
Sadly it just goes to show that natural disasters are still worse than anything else.
On the political side, didn't Clinton put aside a fund and task force that would have been ready to swing into action should something like this happen? And then Bush scrapped it? - Well Done!
I truly can't imagine what these people are going through it must be horrific, and the fact that some take advantage of the situation with looting and lawlessness. Fair enough if you're taking badly needed supplies but TV's and DVD players, jewellery etc it's a shame.
New Orleans is an incredible city and I hope that it will once again return to greatness.
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What up y'all.
I'm so pissed at this racist US government! :evil:
They had all my people stuck in NOLA for 5 damn days without food, water, and meWakerleyal support THEN denied free aid to come in and help these people. F*** America.
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That works well brown eye, get a life. And get off this my people crap, it's all one "people" :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
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At the outset, my sincere condolences to all the american people wh ahve ost their dear ones in this tragic incident. I can imagine the trauma that the people have gone through in the last few days
Having said that I think the biggest highlight of the last few days is the sheer mess that the govt. made in triggering off emergency nad rescue operations. There is no excuse about lead time required to organise national gaurds.. that is why its called an 'emergency and rescue operetaion'!!
George Bush can also not get away from the ownership for the mess. Isn't he the man in charge of the country?
Its a terrible shame that the USA could not handle this emergency. May be USA should look eastwards towards countries like India and Sri Lanka which did a fantastic job of handling the IMMEDIATE emergency. I am sure that with its financial resources, USA will be able to recover much faster that the other countries. But what is importat to note is that Bush and Company screwed it up big time.
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Sadly BrownEyez is right, the US government is coming under increasing critisism because there is a total disorganisation in getting aid to those that need it, which in this case those that need it the most are the black and poor areas of New Orleans.
It shouldn't matter at all as these are human beings in a time of need, I think the response and the speed at which 'Emergency Aid' has been given is appallling.
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Hey BrownEyeZ and sa4877,
Read the entire thread before posting your opinion or is it that you are so small minded all you care about is yourself and getting heard? It is this close-mindedness that causes additional problems in the wake of the real problems.
I can understand people in/at the situation to be frustrated and not seeing the full picture but you two don't have an excuse for not even trying to see the whole situation! Look at the forest and not just the tree that the media is pointing at.
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When I said the U.S has been at the forefront of helping people in suffering, I meant People and Government. The contributions of American aid organizations are felt in every country in the world that has been under such circumstances.
I don't think it is fair to compare the way NO's mayor dealt with the hurricane to the way NY's mayor dealt with 9/11. A terrorist attack is way too different, and the funds available for Guliani were massive, unlike what was available for New Orleans and the poor southern states in general.
I suppose what Katrina may have accomplished, is a wake-up call to the American people, that the inequalities in the system will come and bite the adminstration and the people in the ass.
If the Mayor and the Governor couldnt step up to the challenge I think the nation will turn to its leader, unfortunatley the man supposed to be the leader is George W. Bush. His government has not even acknowledged the problem of Global Warming which can be a major factor in the intesnity of Katrina, so in that respect Bush is to blame.
I don't know much about the demographics of the Southern states, except Texas  . So I can't really tell if there was a race issue. The one thing I can say is when white folks were on tv they were looking for food, when black people were on tv they were looting. The bias is incredibley clear.
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I think the American people and the media shouldn't be concerned by who to blame for the catastrophe just yet. Its time to unite behind the leadership however incompetent this leadership might be, and show the kind of moral and financial support that was prevelant 4 years ago next Monday for the victims.
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Good point Distressed.
Another thing I was wondering about and it might seem silly but if you know you live in an area which is affected by hurricanes and tornados on a yearly basis, apparently these places average around 6 a year. Then why on earth are many of the buildings still constructed of wood and materials which are easily destroyed?
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Akasha Wrote:Sadly BrownEyez is right, the US government is coming under increasing critisism because there is a total disorganisation in getting aid to those that need it, which in this case those that need it the most are the black and poor areas of New Orleans.
It shouldn't matter at all as these are human beings in a time of need, I think the response and the speed at which 'Emergency Aid' has been given is appallling. Akasha,
Sadly, people are not reading the entire thread or read my explanation to the WHOLE situation, and I have family in the middle of it. So for these people to simply go off on and continue harping about the racist part of it is luWakerleyrous. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER, the earth quarks in California, Mount St. Helen, or any of the many other catastrophes the US has been in? Did the US government respond within 24-48 hours? NO THEY DID NOT! It took days and in some cases weeks to organize military assistance. Please look into the history of these things before going off on what the media and a few people are so quick to focus and going off on.
People of many docents; Black, White, Hispanic, Asians, German, French, and more, are all in the middle of this not just one color but all colors. The problem is not getting better by making a single color issue. If you want to turn this into a racist thread, please open up a new subject in the forum, as this is NOT the thread to discuss this.
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Distressed Wrote:When I said the U.S has been at the forefront of helping people in suffering, I meant People and Government. The contributions of American aid organizations are felt in every country in the world that has been under such circumstances.
I don't think it is fair to compare the way NO's mayor dealt with the hurricane to the way NY's mayor dealt with 9/11. A terrorist attack is way too different, and the funds available for Guliani were massive, unlike what was available for New Orleans and the poor southern states in general.
I suppose what Katrina may have accomplished, is a wake-up call to the American people, that the inequalities in the system will come and bite the adminstration and the people in the a#s.
If the Mayor and the Governor couldnt step up to the challenge I think the nation will turn to its leader, unfortunatley the man supposed to be the leader is George W. Bush. His government has not even acknowledged the problem of Global Warming which can be a major factor in the intesnity of Katrina, so in that respect Bush is to blame.
I don't know much about the demographics of the Southern states, except Texas . So I can't really tell if there was a race issue. The one thing I can say is when white folks were on tv they were looking for food, when black people were on tv they were looting. The bias is incredibley clear.
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I think the American people and the media shouldn't be concerned by who to blame for the catastrophe just yet. Its time to unite behind the leadership however incompetent this leadership might be, and show the kind of moral and financial support that was prevelant 4 years ago next Monday for the victims. Hi Distressed,
Your last paragraph correct and right on target.
The one thing I would like to point out is that it is the MEDIA making these comments and not the government, which is a HUGE difference.
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spoke to my family last night, they're all safe 
houses are gone- but that was the least of our worries. Time to start again
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Finally!
A positive post.
I'm so glad to hear that ..
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AND i'm going to be an aunt for the second time in a couple weeks 
thanks distressed
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Bobbie,
That's great news.
Stainless, I apologise, with the current slant the media are putting on it, it's easy to forget that so many people are caught up on it, I guess it's the angle they're taking right now.
I had to laugh at some news footage yesterday though, where all the streats were flooded and there was a family playing in the swimming pool of their back garden just waving at the camera, seemed a really bizarre thing to be doing.
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JimmyHarter Wrote:AND i'm going to be an aunt for the second time in a couple weeks
thanks distressed
Congratulations Bobbie!
It can be so stressful to have to wait and hear and of course we only hope and prey for the best. It wonderful to hear not only one but two bit of great news!
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Oops.... someone seems to have missed the point.
First and foremost... Bobbie.. great news... amidst all this it must be fantaStic news! Being an aunt a second time.
Guys I need to reiterate... I fully agree with the magnitude of the tragedy and understand all this stuff about forests and treeS. A lot of stuff has already been written by several people. Unfortunately, there are some who take pleasure in taking personal jibes.
Now that Katrina has happened, the entire world needs to chip in and do their best to resolve the crisis. HOWEVER, LETS US NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE EMERGENCY AND RELIEF MANAGEMENT PROCESS DID NOT WORK (infact was screwed) If you miss this point... there will be lots more NOs in future.
Any country and specially USA is 'expected' to have into place a formal DISASTER MANAGEMENT PLAN which works on a single point trigger. The moment this trigger is activated, ALL RESOURCES as defined by the process NEED TO MOVE IN IMMD. eg. the defined no. of NG personnel, meWakerleyal facilities, food supplies etc. including the 'owners' for each activity.
THIS UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT HAPPEN IN THE CASE OF NO. So lets not deviate attention from this (racism, poverty, desease, elderly yak yak yak....).
HOPEFULLY USA WILL HAVE A MORE RELIABLE DISASTER MANAGEMENT PLAN INTO PLACE. AND IF THEY CANNOT DESIGN ONE, MAY BE TURN TO THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES WHO HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB IN THE PAST.
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